More findings to prove Noah's flood [Interesting!]

Larryteo SG

Many people , even most christians, actually thought that Noah's flood was just a fable or a myth, even I didn't believe it myself in the past, but recent findings are actually rather startling and difficult to ignore and pass them off as ''nothing of any significance''.

Here is one source : http://evolution-facts.org/New-material/unnatural%20graveyards.htm

I also went across some websites who actually want to crush the theory of a global flood, but some of them can be quite illogical and extreme, so thus, I don't think I will want to post them here. Enjoy reading =)

EchoStretch SG

Many people , even most christians, actually thought that Noah's flood was just a fable or a myth... Where'd you get this idea from? Noah's ark (not flood) is stated clearly in the the Word of God, the Bible. If someone calls themselves 'christian' without even believing in the Word of God... what is that?

And btw I'm a christian myself and I believe in the story of 'Noah's Ark'. God is amazing, he has the power to flood the earth, so do not place doubt in him. (or post such controversy here)

Larryteo SG

I was quite buried in the cover-ups of the education system at that time, such as evolution, the big bang etc etc, so I chose not to believe the bible in the past because it contradicts science. But now there is quite alot of reason to believe..

ThunderFbolt SG

if such information was really true, in this religion-rich world that we can see, why isn't more research done on such a topic? it takes just 1 country to produce irrefutable proof to sway all others to the cause of creation.

and you were probably look for the arguments FOR the flood. try looking for the arguments AGAINST the idea of a flood and you will see that there are just as many arguments out there.

for me, the greatest argument against a global flood is there simply isn't enough water on earth for the flood to occur. in the bible, it is said that the waters covered all the high mountains.

what is the highest point on earth? mount everest, everyone knows that. what is the height of mount everest? about 9000m. age of mount everest? millions of years old, definitely longer than man has existed. what is the increase in water level if all the waters in the world was liquid?

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/askjack/2004-11-21-melting-polar-ice_x.htm

this says about 65 m. (you may say: LIES! the bible and that website says otherwise! at least i'm taking my source from a well-known newspaper, the bible and that website is not known to be credible.) doesn't quite seem to cover the highest mountain, does it?

another thing, for EchoStretch: do you believe in the biblical story of Jonah and the Whale too?

laffin123 SG

Here is one source : http://evolution-facts.org/New-material/unnatural%20graveyards.htm

Hi larryteo, this is no pun

I heard from laurence82 and read your post in another thread that you are hearing voices.

Please seek medical help soonest.

I have relatives' with such experience. I am not fooling with you.

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You said you are quite buried in the cover-ups of the education system at that time!??

If your former science teacher read this, he/she will be so disappointed with you for using the word cover-ups. If you think it is a cover-ups education, do you let your children to attend a science class again ?

sincerely

laffin

laffin123 SG

and you were probably look for the arguments FOR the flood. try looking for the arguments AGAINST the idea of a flood and you will see that there are just as many arguments out there.

for me, the greatest argument against a global flood is there simply isn't enough water on earth for the flood to occur. in the bible, it is said that the waters covered all the high mountains.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/askjack/2004-11-21-melting-polar-ice_x.htm

another thing, for EchoStretch: do you believe in the biblical story of Jonah and the Whale too?

Excellent post !

ThunderFbolt has produced :

REASONING: all the water in the earth cannot reach to summit of high lands.

EVIDENT: all the water can only reach 65m above current sea level (backup with a URL).

Thanks ThunderfBolt, I borrowed your post just to prove to someone what is REASON and EVIDENCE. And he or she will still label me as illogical.

laffin

Larryteo SG

I am not too sure if the flood really happened or not, it just seems weird to me so many people and animals were buried together on high hills all over the world. Just giving some traces. BTW I am not too sure if the highest mountain actually referred to Mount Everest , it could be the highest mountain in another continent. I am also not too sure if the area around Mount Everest was populated at that time or not. But from the way it seems, even seabirds could die and get buried together. It may prove that they exceeded their range of flying/ they could not find a spot to land on.

ThunderFbolt SG

okay, so one possible reason that animal remains (i don't remember reading about any human remains found in such places, though they may just be indistinguishable from animal remains) were found in high places was that there was a flood that covered the highest peaks of the highest mountains, as the animals would naturally congregate to dryer areas, and would die there when the dryer areas disappear. however, think about it, if all the dry areas disappear, the animals would drown, decompose, and their remains become gassy and FLOAT uniformly throughout the world? it is entirely possible, seeing how messages in bottles are able to cross oceans. so doesn't that mean that animal remains, regardless of location, should be able to be found always at a specific depth below ground level?

one other possible reason, aside from a flood, that animal remains are found thousands of feet above sea level may be due to the movement of tectonic plates. if you took secondary school geography, you would see that when 2 plates collide, one is pushed down, and the other pushed UP, and any fossils stuck in the plate going up would be pushed up as well. that's how mountains are formed anyway.

one last thing, what is the height of our beloved Bukit Timah Hill? wiki says 164 m. think about it, even if all the waters in the world were to flood, it won't even cover a third of the height of our little hill. how would it cover the rest of the world?

Larryteo SG

You make sense there ^.

BadzMaro SG

lol.. ye of weak faith.

Googooboyy SG

It 'could' happen. Just ask Kevin Costner. Or go watch waterworld. =S

BadzMaro SG

Trust me man.. when the Almighty does his thing.. our logic cant even comprehend how its done. Thats why we are still using science to explain these phenemenons.

ThunderFbolt SG

Trust me man.. when the Almighty does his thing.. our logic cant even comprehend how its done. Thats why we are still using science to explain these phenemenons.

i don't know any phenomenon where the earth was covered in a sticky white substance... o.O

oh wait, was that when manna fell from the sky? =D

BadzMaro SG

lol..

well.. u gotta in the exodus to experience the phenomenon. xD

Rooney9 SG

if there is a god, I have no idea why he has to create a flood? what not create an armageddon and kill us all lol. what was he thinking

Larryteo SG

Because God has an unusual habit of using nature to deal with people. LOL. Well, maybe he wants to leave some traces of the flood behind so people will be warned. Who knows what he's thinking?

Rooney9 SG

well if he is omiscient, he surely will be able to read the future. if he is unable to, he is not omniscient. so if he created the world and humans and he knew the world and humans were degenerating, didnt he already knew that in advance and why even bother to create a flood to warn humans.

question, ask god to create something he cant lift. if he is unable to create it, he is not omnipotent. if he is able to create something he cant lift, then he is also not omnipotent. see the logic here.

EchoStretch SG

Trust me man.. when the Almighty does his thing.. our logic cant even comprehend how its done. Thats why we are still using science to explain these phenemenons.

I soooo agree with you... When people come to argue against these controversial topics they always win with their logical theories. But yeah, many much more people like me believes God is Almighty and no logic and science can explain him, and that's why he is called God.

ThunderFbolt SG

erm... you do know by saying this you are saying that God is illogical and yet you believe in him/her right?

.SBS9888Y. SG

there were many prophesies about the coming of Jesus. all came thru thru the birth of Jesus. this is the fact about omniscience.

God gave people a choice to how they wanted to live. but people turned away from Him so he used the flood as a warning. God knows but He gives us the liberty to choose. so whatever you do now, affects your destiny in future which is in God's hands.

You haven't seen God create something He can't lift so you are in no grounds to judge that. and duhh. he won't do such things for he is an all powerful God able to do all things. Like echo said, no logic and science can explain God and its easy to twist words which were not implied in that manner like for example, the verse on if the right eye cause you to sin, gauge it out and throw it away. You don't literally do that. The omnipotence of God was meant simply that he is able to deliver you from any situation if you have the right heart and faith to believe.